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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    I asked him to add pics which he did. Looks like it is holed? Maybe just a large bead? Not sure of the orientation between the hole and the eagle.
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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    Maybe the hole was there so it could be used as a trinket topper of some sort?

    Mark, is that what you meant by the "top of a early Carnival Cane" here?

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    Hey Folks, The thing that seems odd to me is that it appears to have only one "fisheye" and that looks like it is on a "point", which would have required a balancing act of sorts to produce, if I am not mistaken. -Ric

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    It's a fake. The coloring and construction are not right. Probably imprinted from a civil war button similar to the ones here http://www.fcsutler.com/fcbuttons.asp. You have to picture it as a mirror image. Germany has also used a similar Eagle since the 1300's but not clutching anything in it's claws like the one on the marble shown.

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    The glaze looks wrong to me. It looks watered down. There is also a pool of color on one side. I feel the bare spot and the large circle near the eagle are kiln marks. (a mark left when an item touches another in the firing kiln)
    Overall I feel it is very suspicious. Mark

    As a side note for "That girl"... In the 1800's and early 1900's carnivals and street fairs gave away canes or walking sticks as prizes. Some had glass or pottery tops such as dice, animals or just pretty china ball tops.

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    I think it is a sham! IMHO
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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    im going with the ring/button theory....makes sense why the head is turned to the left....if its possible to do that while its being made

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    I dunno, I collect old pottery and it looks right to me. If there was one single factor to lead me to believe this, it is the lack of a whole mess of 'em flooding the market such as those ones dredged from the Chattahoochie. IMHO ~R

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    Interesting point.

    The uniqueness of this piece is fascinating.

    It could be the beginning of a new fraud, but if it is then it is a very low key beginning.

    I do not associate this seller's name with fraud. The only other time I remember registering this seller's name was when I bid on something from them. And look at what else they're offering for sale now.

    Do you think someone recently made all those other bennies too, and only put the seal in one?

    That'd be subtle.


    I can hardly wait for tomorrow ... to see who wins it! LOL
    Last edited by That Girl; 12-17-2007 at 09:22 PM.

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    I don't think it is a seal. The late 18th cent. Am. coinage has this eagle facing this direction on one of her coins. I like it!! ~R

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-MARBLES-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Here is the link to the other bennington auction they have listed. They could have at least waited until the first was over.
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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    uh oh ...

    do the ceramics in this completed listing look unusually out of round and oddly painted? (or am I starting to let my imagination run wild?)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250196552089



    It's the purple spots on the big one that really got me wondering.

    If these are fakes, I was fooled by their basic blues. What happens when people learn not to use suspicious colors?
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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    Here are their green ones from another completed auction.

    Only brought $9.99. Does that mean the people who know rare bennies didn't think much of them? Or do I overstimate the value of green bennies?

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    Oh sh*t.

    From another completed listing. They don't seem quite so subtle anymore.




    Another pic from the same auction.




    Item #250197210257
    Last edited by That Girl; 12-18-2007 at 06:42 PM.

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    Re: Here's a new one for me...

    OKAY, I know I shouldn't have but I did. I contacted the seller and asked him where he was getting the fake bennies. Here is his response..


    "this has been in my family since 1970.you need to mind your own business and stick your comments where the sun dont shine got it. you are on the blocked bidders list now so you wont have to worry about it anymore.have a nice day "


    Thought I would share it with everyone.

    Question - how can you block someone when they send you an anonymous message on eBay?
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