Is this oxblood coloring, plus ID of one swirled marble

[LonexQuack]

I'm looking for an example of oxblood, just in general- is the first photo the color I'm looking for?

And for the rest of the pictures, this is one marble I'm looking for ID for. It's in good condition, so I'm suspicious of its rarity. On either pole, there are spots where the "swirl" doesn't come together, shown by a very thin line (no or little indent) where the "ribbon" of color does not match up.

Also... is there a limit to the number of threads I can make here in this IDing forum per day? I've got a lot that I'm curious about, that day by day I'm craving outside input for.

[That Girl]

That first one could be oxblood. Yes, it's the right "color" but more than color is traditionally involved in making the oxblood ID. The lighter area on the side might make some people doubtful about the ox on this particular marble but I think the dark area might still be the real deal. Could we see more pix of that one?

[That Girl]

My first thought on the 2nd marble was that I was going to see a Peltier Rainbo pattern when I opened the thumbnails. That didn't happen. But it did have something interesting at the cutline.

It seems possible that could be a new marble. But I'm not totally sure. If new then the maker and style I'd be thinking of would be Vacor "Old Fashion".

[lstmmrbls]

I think the second is a Vacor as Steph mentions but I just do not get a feel for "Oxblood" on the first.

[jimp777]

I can't comment on a limit per day, but I like to put in no more than 4 or 5 threads at a time. If you put up to 4 marbles in each thread side by side, and take multiple photo's that way, you can get up to 20 ID's. PLus this allows other site users to have their ID's on page 1 for awhile to try to get ID's. I keep each group of marbles at home in the same order (in a flower frog usually) so as the ID's come in, I can continue to comment and send in additional photo's as needed. I also try to pick a marble where I have more at home of the same design if possible, so I sort of get a "group ID" all at one time. I think the awesome people on this site who have the experience are okay with multiple marbles in each thread, just not too many. I choose 4, but have seen up to 8 or more that seem like you can still have reasonable photo's. But if you want the best ID"s, multiple photo's of each marble, including the poles, seams etc are helpful.

[LonexQuack]

Here is more of the one that's white with the deep red.

I was thinking Vacor for the white with orange swirls one. It's quite a beauty, but it is in such good condition that I was not expecting it to be rare!

And thanks jimp, that's very helpful!

[That Girl]

Definitely not a typical marble where one would expect to find oxblood.

The color is in the ballpark but again, oxblood is about more than color.




Just curious ... if you shine a strong light into it, can you see a little ways into the red patch?

[LonexQuack]

Definitely not a typical marble where one would expect to find oxblood.

The color is in the ballpark but again, oxblood is about more than color.




Just curious ... if you shine a strong light into it, can you see a little ways into the red patch?

Nope, not at all.

[winnie]

Not oxblood.
When you've one with oxblood in hand,you will never forget what oxblood is.
winnie

[Alan]

I don't see any oxblood in that group.

[Al]

I think this is one of Alan's oxblood examples pics from back in 2008

[jimp777]

I've always struggled with oxblood, and I know it's an important one to ID. I noticed the comment of "seeing into the red", but what makes that different from transparent red? And is it only Akro who has black running through their oxblood? I'm planning on hitting the Decatur show, does it make sense to buy a couple oxbloods that way to have something to compare to?

[Alan]

I've always struggled with oxblood, and I know it's an important one to ID. I noticed the comment of "seeing into the red", but what makes that different from transparent red? And is it only Akro who has black running through their oxblood? I'm planning on hitting the Decatur show, does it make sense to buy a couple oxbloods that way to have something to compare to?

Lets talk about Akro oxblood to keep it simple. Like all things there are rules - and exceptions. Lets focus on the common.

Oxblood has a flat, brick-red color. It commonly has black detail lines - but it is not uncommon to find examples without.

Here are some pics of Akro cullet. They might help you visualize the variences from he same company.



























So what does it look like on a marble?








In my opinion - the best way to learn to identify oxblood is to go to a marble show and learn to identify it in hand. This is where trying to learn identification by photos in a book or on the Web just doesn't measure up.

My second piece of advice is to not look for it. Much red in marbles is misidentified as oxblood by folks looking for/hoping for oxblood.

Once you have handled hundreds of examples at a show - you'll grasp the qualities, nuances and variability in oxblood... and won't have to think abut it.

[jimp777]

So I did find some cullet that might match these color combinations. And one half a cork that might have that coloring. My opinion from looking at the other cullet, is that the large piece has some oxblood. The yellow orange piece to me is similar colors, but no black or white, so probably not oxblood. The tiny piece has black in it, but I also do not think it is oxblood.

[lstmmrbls]

the tiny piece might be but I do not really see oxblood in that cullet or marble. And I do not think it has been mentioned but real Oxblood is actually a type of glass not just a color.
http://www.canalfultonglassworks.com...lood_glass.htm